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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #198
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-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Wed, 23 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 198
-
- Today's Topics:
- ARRL Repeater Directory
- Dayton parking
- Exam element credit - 1 yr.!
- Hammarlund HQ105TR - What is it?
- HDN Releases
- John Ramsey
- Looking for HT storage suggestions
- Low power Bird slugs
- NEED RADIO
- Passed General written, how long do I have to pass code?
- RFD: rec.radio.pendantic
- Rolling RF NOISE!!
-
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-
- Date: 23 Feb 94 20:14:38 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!hp-cv!hp-pcd!hpcvsnz!tomb@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ARRL Repeater Directory
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM wrote:
-
- : I have a real big problem with the idea that there are deliberate errors
- : purposely induced into what should be a reference book. Maybe we should start
- : a "repeater directory accuracy project" to confirm all the listings in the
- : ARRL directory to see if content errors exist.
-
- I was the one who did the Washington (state) part for Conway's project; my
- submission to him never saw the light of day because of the current hassle.
- I will say that I did a lot more than just copy the ARRL directory: most
- Western Washington repeaters in the list are ones I have personally confirmed.
- There are indeed corrections that I have included. One even came from DFing
- the repeater...bunny hunt practice.
-
- I'd be willing to post my submission to Conway, with all the info that
- hasn't been independently verified deleted. Any interest?
-
- 73, K7ITM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Feb 94 22:16:48 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.ysu.edu!malgudi.oar.net!picker!news@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Dayton parking
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- > This sort of conjures up the stereotype of the ham who is too lazy
- > to get out of his operating chair and walk somewhere. Someone once
- > told me that Real DXers[tm] have country counts equal to their weight
- > in lbs.
- >
- > From what I've seen of the typical hamfest ham, most of them could
- > do with a bit more walking around.
-
- I among other DXers (actually my DXCC count is very close to my weight
- as I approach Honor Roll) could lose a few pounds. Then there are slim
- guys like Chod Harris. We're not all overweight.
-
- As for Dayton, a walk to Salem Mall down the hill ain't unpleasant at
- all unless its a downpour (like '93), or freezing (like '82), or tropical
- like many other years. My group's philosophy (Armageddon ARC, Cleveland
- and the World) is to use the busses. Once you're hooked on letting them
- drive you to a nearby mall or your hotel, you'll never want to park
- again. You do get some dirty looks with a Johnson Viking II straddled
- on your lap, though.
-
- Tis the season when hearts turn to Dayton. 73s....
-
- Al N8AGU
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Feb 94 13:01:35 GMT
- From: mdisea!mothost!lmpsbbs!news@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Exam element credit - 1 yr.!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article o6m@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu, ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld) writes:
- }You have ONE YEAR EXACTLY from the date of passing an exam element to use it
- }for getting a higher class license.
- }
- }Someone noted that they passed the General written, but haven't passed 13 wpm.
- }You have exactly 1 year from the date of passing your general exam to pass
- }the 13 wpm exam (i.e. utilize the General written credit), after which the
- }written exam credit will expire.
- }
- }Scott NF3I
- }
- }I don't remember if it's, for example, Nov. 7, 1993 - Nov. 6, 1994, or
- }Nov. 7, 1993 - Nov. 7, 1994 (last day inclusive?)
- }
- }--
- }73, _________ _________ The
- } \ / Long Original
- }Scott Rosenfeld Amateur Radio NF3I Burtonsville, MD | Live $5.00
- } WAC-CW/SSB WAS DXCC - 123 QSLed on dipoles __________| Dipoles! Antenna!
-
-
- Actually, you have 365 days, so watch out during leap years.
- Bruce, WB4YUC
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Feb 94 15:40:37 GMT
- From: athos.cc.bellcore.com!blitzen.cc.bellcore.com!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Hammarlund HQ105TR - What is it?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In a local antique store I found an old Hammarlund boatanchor with model number
- HQ105TR. My question is simple: What is it?
-
- The owner claims that it is a ham rig, but I'm not sure. In the back there
- are provisions for coax, and two jacks that LOOK like mike and key, but
- are unmarked. The bandspread knob has markings for CB channels (!), which
- confuses the issue. From the dials I can see that coverage is 2-30 MHz.
- Could it be a receiver only?
-
- Also, is it worth the $60 they are asking for, assuming working order?
- Any help would be appreciated.
-
- Tnx de
- ___________________________________________________________________
- George Karayannopoulos N2OWO
- karayan@cc.bellcore.com Bellcore, Red Bank, NJ
- Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are mine and not my employer's.
-
- --
- ___________________________________________________________________
- George Karayannopoulos N2OWO
- karayan@cc.bellcore.com Bellcore, Red Bank, NJ
- Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are mine and not my employer's.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 20 Feb 94 05:53:07 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!news.oc.com!utacfd.uta.edu!rwsys!ocitor!FredGate@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HDN Releases
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- The following files were processed Saturday 2-19-94:
-
-
- HAMNEWS [ HAM: Bulletins and Newsletters ]
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- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 00:44:23 -0500
- From: agate!news.Brown.EDU!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@ames.arpa
- Subject: John Ramsey
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Dana Myers <myers@cypress.West.Sun.COM> writes:
-
- > * This Extra supports the abolition of the 13 and 20 WPM tests *
-
- This Extra supports the abolition of those who support the abolition of
- the 13 and 20 WPM tests.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 22:08:42 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!asuvax!pitstop.mcd.mot.com!mcdphx!schbbs!waters.corp.mot.com.corp.mot.com!user@ames.arpa
- Subject: Looking for HT storage suggestions
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CLMzMK.EJw@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>,
- witness@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Greg Sherwin) wrote:
-
- > Is this a concern that should keep me from storing an HT in my trunk during
- > the summer months? Anyone have any similar experiences or wisdom to share?
-
- Don't know about the specs, but off and on I have kept my IC24AT and before
- that a Motorola HT under the front seat of my car in the Arizona sun for
- many years. I make sure they are out of the direct sunlight, but don't do
- anything else special.
-
- I have an Alinco DR590 that has been in the car full time for three years
- now without problems.
-
- Bottom line IMHO is that you shouldn't have any trouble with reasonable
- care, although you might shorten the life of the NiCads some.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Feb 94 16:52:26 GMT
- From: titan.ksc.nasa.gov!k4dii.ksc.nasa.gov!user@ames.arpa
- Subject: Low power Bird slugs
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <8377@gold.gvg.tek.com>, groverc@gvgadg.gvg.tek.com wrote:
- > Is there a Bird slug available that would do a credible job
- > of measuring <5w signals in the range 3-30MHz?
-
- WT6P-
-
- I assume you refer to the common Bird model 43 wattmeter. According to the
- 1992 Bird catalog, the lowest power slug for 2-30 MHz, is the 50H, 50 watt
- element. Whether a <5 watt reading would be "credible" or not, is
- doubtful.
-
- At the top of that frequency range, there is the 5A, 5 watt element for
- 25-60 MHz. The 1 watt and 2.5 watt elements aren't available below 30 MHz.
- The "milliwatt" elements aren't available below 70 MHz.
-
- If you haven't bought your wattmeter yet, there is the Bird model 4310,
- which can use a single slug (4410-3) for 2-30 MHz, to switch-select 0-1, 3,
- 10, 100, 300, 1000 watts. Slug 4410-10 covers 25-80 MHz, with 0-0.1, 0.3,
- 1, 3, 10, 30,100 watts. In the 1986 price list, the 4410 was $495, the
- 4410-3 was $150 and the 4410-10 was $125. I'm fairly sure the prices are
- higher now!
-
- As a point of interest, the model 43 is rated at 5% of full scale, while
- the 4310 is rated at 5% of any READING above 20% of full scale.
-
- 73, Fred, K4DII
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Feb 94 17:40:36 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!dptspd!news.tamu.edu!mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx!not-for-mail!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: NEED RADIO
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Need a used radio. Motorola 2mts P110 or else.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Feb 94 20:39:46 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cville-srv.wam.umd.edu!ham@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Passed General written, how long do I have to pass code?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >>where I took my exams, if you do not pass the codes, they don't let you
- >>take the written exams (makes sense). So your being able to take the
- >>written exam without the 13 wpm is something new to me.
- >>N3RKD
- >
- >I don't know of any reason why you can't take all the written tests w/o
- >passing a code test first. You certainly can have written credit w/o having
- >code credit.
- >
- >a long time ago this was not the case, but today there is no reason not to go
- >ahead and give someone a written. having that credit can be an incentive to
- >get moving on the code. I know I had extra written credit twice (the first
- >time a few years ago, i never got my code up. the 2nd time, i did make it
- >after about 3-4 months....)
- >
- >sounds like your VE team needs to get up to date. I know we do written credit
- >only --
-
- Most VE teams today will give credit for ANY element passed. You don't
- even need to take them in order. Theoretically, you could start at Extra,
- and work DOWN to Novice, although at testing sessions we generally
- recommend that people work UPwards. Occasionally, we have had a person
- come in and have not realized that the "No-code Tech" exam ALSO consisted
- of ELEMENT 2! So they are totally unprepared to take the Novice test,
- and fail miserably, but ace the Tech 3A exam. How anyone could study for
- a license and NOT know this is beyond me, but I HAVE seen it happen.
-
-
- --
- 73, _________ _________ The
- \ / Long Original
- Scott Rosenfeld Amateur Radio NF3I Burtonsville, MD | Live $5.00
- WAC-CW/SSB WAS DXCC - 125 QSLed on dipoles __________| Dipoles! Antenna!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Feb 94 21:50:48 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!chip.ucdavis.edu!ez006683@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: RFD: rec.radio.pendantic
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Jeffrey D. Angus (jangus@skyld.grendel.com) wrote:
-
-
- : I watched the entire episode from the start on rec.radio.cb. From what
- : I saw you got your wannabe basket-weave belt accessories in a knot when
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- I love it!! Can I have this for my very own?
-
-
- P.S. If Jeff is as uptight about gays as he is about the use of the
- airwaves is he a hamster and gerbil cop? :-)
-
- cheers,
- Dan
- --
- *---------------------------------------------------------------------*
- * Daniel D. Todd Packet: KC6UUD@KE6LW.#nocal.ca.usa *
- * Internet: ddtodd@ucdavis.edu *
- * Snail Mail: 1750 Hanover #102 *
- * Davis CA 95616 *
- *---------------------------------------------------------------------*
- * The only thing I can officially say for the University is: *
- * What I say is in no way related to oficial University policy *
- *---------------------------------------------------------------------*
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Feb 94 14:06:13 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!pitstop.mcd.mot.com!mcdphx!schbbs!mothost!lmpsbbs!NewsWatcher!user@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Rolling RF NOISE!!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <holdwick_marc-220294134932@mac-am-47.cig.mot.com>,
- holdwick_marc@macmail1.rtsg.mot.com (Marc Holdwick) wrote:
-
- >
- > My parents have a 1990 Accord which failed to start one day. It was traced
- > to a bad ignition module. About a year after my dad had it replaced (out
- > of his own pocket) Honda sent out a notice referring to this problem and
- > reimbursed my father.
- >
- > I'm not sure if a new style of ignition module was used. Perhaps that is
- > the problem. Could you ask the dealership what EXACTLY was "fixed". If a
- > new part was used what part did it replace?
- >
- > If it is something other than the ignition module I would be really
- > interested in knowing as I have a high milage (140k) 1985 Chevy Caprice
- > which has *terrible* ignition noise. I have checked all of the usual
- > items: Plugs, cables but to no avail. I think there might be a problem in
- > the distributor. (I'm sure that SOMEWHERE, in some police garage there is
- > a mechanic who has solved my EXACT problem - too bad there isn't a
- > rec.radio.police.caprice.RFI newsgroup)
- >
- >
- > 73,
- >
- > Marc - N8KWX
-
- I had a Mercury Topaz that exhibited similar problems for
- about two months, after which the ignition coil failed and
- I sat at the side of the road for a while. When the dealer
- replaced the coil, all the noise problems went away, and they
- even left my big coaxial capacitor in place on the lead to the
- new coil. The Topaz also had an electric fuel pump inside the
- gasoline tank which generated tremendous amounts of RF hash.
- Ford has a standard RF filter for the fuel pump.
-
- --
- Karl Beckman, P.E. < STUPIDITY is an elemental force for which >
- Motorola Comm - Fixed Data < no earthquake is a match. -- Karl Kraus >
-
-
- Some of the opinions expressed above aren't even claimed by the author!
- Amateur radio WA8NVW @ K8MR.NEOH.USA.NA NavyMARS VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 05:41:06 GMT
- From: agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!slay@ames.arpa
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <steve.761771155@netsys.com>, <1994Feb22.122512.18239@afit.af.mil>, <1994Feb22.160515.24890@isc-br.isc-br.com>
- Subject : Re: Passed General written, how long do I have to pass code?
-
- Bruce Oscarson (bruceo@loki.isc-br.com) wrote:
- : I passed my General written exam a while back, but was only able to
- : copy 5 wpm.
-
- : Does anyone know how long I have to pass the 13 wpm before I have to
- : take the written exam over again?
-
- At the time for your exam, you should have been issued a CSCE for the
- written and CW elements you were able to pass. That CSCE is valid for
- exactly one year - and no more. [I had a fellow who came in to our
- exam session one year plus one day after his CSCE had been issued and
- very unfortunately, it was no longer valid.]
-
- Cheers de Sandy WA6BXH/7J1ABV slay@netcom.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 00:05:22 -0500
- From: agate!news.Brown.EDU!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@ames.arpa
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CKIHK9.2ss@ucdavis.edu>, <CKKnFq.M24@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <2j6dal$5m7@apple.com>
- Subject : Re: Boring WWV Programs
-
- very good and clever response, 73, N6WR,
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Feb 94 21:44:32 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!chip.ucdavis.edu!ez006683@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2jubh6INNl25@abyss.West.Sun.COM>, <RqzI+RX.armond@delphi.com>, <2kerpe$duh@spool.cs.wisc.edu>Θ
- Subject : Re: John Ramsey
-
- Jason Hanson (jason@yar.cs.wisc.edu) wrote:
- : In article <RqzI+RX.armond@delphi.com>, <armond@delphi.com> wrote:
- : >Dana Myers <myers@cypress.West.Sun.COM> writes:
- : >
- : >> * This Extra supports the abolition of the 13 and 20 WPM tests *
- : >
- : >This Extra supports the abolition of those who support the abolition of
- : >the 13 and 20 WPM tests.
-
- : This Extra supports the abolition of delphi posters from the net.
-
- Well,
- Here is a really interesting example of how to treat the no-code
- license. Think of Delphi as the internet equivelent to a no-code
- ticket. Delphi brought a lot of new users into the internet just as the
- no-code ticket brought a bunch of new hams in to amateur radio. Delphi,
- like the no-code ticket is a good way for the uninitiated (those without
- elmers) to get involved with a great communication medium. Instead of
- flaming this guy or suggesting we abolish all Delphi users, it may be
- more productive to suggest that he ftp from rtfm.mit.edu the FAQ for
- news.announce.newusers or news.newusers.questions perhaps you could
- read the FAQ directly from the newsgroups. There are also netiquette
- docs out there, if you need some, I'll help find them for you.
- Or if that doesn't work we can just give Jeff his address and he can
- include it in this weeks call to the FCC. You never know this message
- was sent via RF somewhere along the way!!!
-
-
- Dan
- --
- *---------------------------------------------------------------------*
- * Daniel D. Todd Packet: KC6UUD@KE6LW.#nocal.ca.usa *
- * Internet: ddtodd@ucdavis.edu *
- * Snail Mail: 1750 Hanover #102 *
- * Davis CA 95616 *
- *---------------------------------------------------------------------*
- * The only thing I can officially say for the University is: *
- * What I say is in no way related to oficial University policy *
- *---------------------------------------------------------------------*
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 21:32:53 GMT
- From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!pitstop.mcd.mot.com!mcdphx!schbbs!waters.corp.mot.com.corp.mot.com!user@ames.arpa
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2k0eup$k3o@crcnis1.unl.edu>, <rcrw90-180294093408@waters.corp.mot.com.corp.mot.com>, <2kcdqj$nto@crcnis1.unl.edu>
- Subject : Re: Keyboards at testing sessions
-
- In article <2kcdqj$nto@crcnis1.unl.edu>, mcduffie@unlinfo.unl.edu (Gary
- McDuffie Sr) wrote:
-
- > rcrw90@email.mot.com (Mike Waters) writes:
- >
- > >The need is not to show that someone *is* or *could* cheat, but for them to
- > >prove that they *could not* cheat.. If you want to use some piece of
- > >equipment in a testing session *you* must show that (a) you are not using
- > >it to cheat and (b) it won't disturb the other test takers.
- >
- > Oh, we are back to guilty_until_proven_innocent now? Be real!
-
- No one is being accused of anything - just making sure the test is fair for
- all.
-
- > >Showing an empty hard drive or none at all is one very easy way to do this.
- > > Certainly there are other waysto do this. Remember the onus in not on the
- > >VEs to try to anticipate every possible way for someone to cheat, but to
- > >ensure fair tests
- >
- > You failed to answer the question. What has a hard drive got to do
- > with cheating? How is a hard drive going to help you cheat?
-
- As I stated in my previous post, I have no idea how you might use a hard
- drive to cheat and I don't care! That is my answer - IT DOESN'T MATTER!
-
- I would feel the same about bringing in absolutly anything that is not
- needed in the exam room - a dictionary, a book on morse code, or a tape
- recorder all fall into that class.
-
- My point is that you shouldn't have any question of cheating.
-
- This is not a contest to see what creative things you can do to "get
- around" the VEs - they are volunteers who are trying to help people show
- they are qualified and "sticking their necks out" to do so I might add. If
- someone cheats in one of my VE sessions *my* license and reputation is on
- the line! I don't intend to risk either just to be a "nice guy", but I
- will do all I can to help someone who has a legitimate problem.
-
- If you don't like it then you are free either to do it better or try to
- find someone else who will, certainly it won't cost *me* any money or any
- sleep.
-
- If I run the testing session you will have to show me that you don't have
- anything that could allow you to cheat - period. I suspect that you will
- find just about every other VE feels the same way.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #198
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